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LOB ballots in voters’ hands — along with instructions

Hays Post

A day after ballots arrived in mailboxes asking residents to decide upon a school district tax increase, the Ellis County Clerk’s office already is beginning to tally the results.

Ballots

Ballot envelopes must be signed by the voter.

 

The mail-in ballots ask voters in Hays USD 489 to decide whether to increase the cash-strapped district’s local option budget from 30 percent to 31 percent, a move that would generate approximately $200,000 in addition revenue.

The instructions included in the ballot ask voters to sign the back of the envelope, as well as confirm their address.

“What we are finding is that if there is more than one in the household … they are signing the wrong envelope,” said Ellis County Clerk Donna Maskus.

The clerk’s office will check signatures against voter registrations cards, as well as ensuring the resident has not changed addresses.

If there is a question with a ballot or if it is unsigned, the clerk’s office will attempt to contact the voter.

“Our dilemma there is fewer and fewer people are listing their phone numbers,” Maskus said. “It’s very hard to contact them.”

Those who did not receive a ballot or those with questions are asked to call the clerk’s office at (785) 628-9410 or email Maskus directly at dclerk@ellisco.net.

“We’re glad to check,” she said. “We want everyone who is qualified to be able to vote.”

In order to be counted, ballots must be returned by noon June 27.

For more information on the LOB issue, click HERE.

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  • Taxes 2 High Wages 2 Low

    I received mine in the mail yesterday; voted “no” and put it in the mail today.

    • ddd

      Likewise-2 here

      • Big Girl

        Ditto

        • ZMan

          2 “no’s” from our house.

    • me to

      I did likewise.

    • Chris

      Was it the 19 cent increase per month in property taxes per $100,000 of home that caused you to vote no? That extra $2 a year was too hard for you to come up with?

      Oh yeah, you really “stuck it” to that school board. Actually, your no vote “stuck it” to the kids, since they will be the ones that are affected. BRAVO!

      • toby

        must be a renter and a big spender

      • Cover me?

        Personally it’s not the extra $.48 cents a month/$5.75 year. That’s not a big deal. But when you start talking about almost $28/month and $330+ a year, then I take issue. That’s the difference for me between 31% and 33%. If I knew the BOE couldn’t raise it any higher then 1%, I’d probably vote yes. They have indicated though that they’d probably use their right to raise it to the max – 33%. Tell you what Chris, I’ll vote yes if you agree to pay the difference if they go higher than 31%.

        • Chris

          I can understand the issue with that. I think that the ability to raise it to 33% has rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. It was definitely something I considered when voting.

    • Newsguy

      2 “yes” at ours.

  • jackson

    done voted and dropped back in the mailbox last night. big NO on mine and the wife.

  • Yes

    Hopefully there are enough Hays citizens who are willing to help make up the money the state has cut from our local schools. Our community has schools we’ve always been able to be proud of. Folks may not agree with every decision made, but we are being asked locally if we value our schools, and if so, we have a chance to help out. We voted yes, and feel the students/parents/teachers deserve our help.

    • Chris

      2 yes’s from this house. I have no kids, and am a new home owner. Sure, taxes suck, but I put a huge value on education. Those that are voting “no” seem to be cutting off the ear just to spite the face.

  • govt school options

    No here. Would vote yes if we had school vouchers to have school choice or to help fund home schooling.

    • Never happy

      What do you want next? A voucher so you can have a private road to your house because the public road isn’t good enough for you? Public roads and public education are provided for all. If you don’t like what is given, you can certainly use your own money.

  • tired taxpayer

    Can the political process not do anything to save the taxpayer money. Did anyone notice that the ballot return envelope has actual postage on it instead of using postage paid return envelopes that only cost postage if they are returned. So the taxpayers are out the postage on all the ballots not returned as well. How dumb is this? And they wonder why the taxpayers question their actions.

    • New BOE needed

      Our current BOE isn’t the brightest………that’s been made abundantly clear.

      • tired taxpayer

        I believe this one is on the County as the County clerk is in charge of the election process. Waste and careless spending is found at all levels of government

      • You sure?

        How so?

        • New BOE needed

          Money given hand over fist to sports while teachers are let go and parents have to pay increased enrollment. Just this year, I’ll have $300 for drivers ed and about $500 to enroll my kids come August. Shows they prefer sports over finances and education.

          • passin_threw

            If the drivers ed parents would form a group and do something to raise funds the same as groups like booster club and hays singers do it would cut your costs as well.

          • Kathy

            Or maybe instead of having free sports for all, we could invest that money into education first.

          • passin_threw

            Here I am giving a viable option that would require someone to help themselves and the opposition to sports only remedy is cutting sports and or funding for it. Why is that Kathy?

          • Kathy

            School-required by law. Sports-optional. USD489-1.3 million in the red. Sports-here’s your check for $495,000 anyway so you can have fun.

          • passin_threw

            Well Kathy, I do believe that roughly 1/4 of that sports budget is provided by non tax dollars. Sports isn’t all fun. Two-a-days in august aren’t fun, 6:30 am weights aren’t fun, practice during Christmas break isn’t fun, practice til dark only to have homework until late into the night isn’t fun. These kids dedicate a lot of themselves to succeed in school and sports, why can’t people be supportive of them?

          • Kathy

            If it’s not fun, no one is forcing them to go out. I think you fail to understand that education is required of parents and needed to get a job in life. Sports are a luxury and optional. No state law requires you take sports. And no employer is going to give you a job just because you put down you were in middle school track. I never said I wasn’t supportive of sports. I said that if we put some limits on sports funding and put more of it into education, maybe parents like me wouldn’t have to cough up $800 this summer for education. If my kids want to go out for sports though, by all means, they don’t have to pay a dime as it’s all paid for.

          • passin_threw

            Using your rational then it should cost you the entire bill for drivers ed not the subsidized amount of $300

          • Kathy

            Got to hand it to you, you’re de smart one. You must have wonner of them thar masters degrees to figur that thar one out. $300 for a course vs nothing to play sports. I had that greater and lesser symbol all backwards. Duh Duh Duh.

          • passin_threw

            Go ahead Kathy start with belittling me. Real classy for someone that’s so worried about education. The class you’re whining about costing $300 isn’t even required by state law. Wasn’t state law the crutch you were leaning on earlier? Duh Duh Duh

          • Kathy

            So you’re saying the state of KS doesn’t require a certified drivers ed course for a 16 year old to receive a license? ;)

          • passin_threw

            That is exactly what I’m saying. Better do your homework before you dispute this

          • lee05

            yes they do, just talked to the DMV last week for my daughter.

          • passin_threw

            Lee it’s NOT required. There are other hoops and options that can be done in lieu of drivers ed. Don’t believe me tho just google it and read. I’ve had 3 kids get drivers license and only one took it

          • Parent of a driver

            When we’ve called out there, we get a different answer every time. The website and flyers they give are complicated to figure out….but then again, it’s government prepared. And not to knock the school drivers ed staff, but I was thinking at the meeting they said it was required. You could take it here or go to Salina. Wish they would all get their notes together. No wonder everyone is confused.

          • passin_threw

            The only time it is required is for a 15 yr old to drive alone for work. At 16 which is when they can get an unrestricted license it is NOT required and has no effect on insurance. Here’s a link just to annoy ChiefJoe http://www.ksrevenue.org/dmvgdl.html

          • Chris

            Are you kidding me? Employers love to hire individuals that have participated in sports throughout school. It shows dedication, commitment and hard work.

            Cut the sports budget? Which parts exactly are you going to cut? Salaries, since that makes up a huge portion of it? Go for it. See how hard it is to hire teachers when the supplementals are crap.

          • Kathy

            So the preferential solution was to fire 16 teachers and increase enrollment? I’m a business owner and consider the educational credentials when I hire, not sports. I’ve also held many jobs in life and not once was asked about my sports background.

          • Chris

            With your angst towards sports, I highly doubt you had much of a “sports background.”

          • Kathy

            What I do have is common sense that a strong educational background will get your further in life than one in sports. When faced with a financial decision on which one of those should face cuts, I’d make those cuts in sports every time.

          • passin_threw

            Kathy, have you found where it’s required to take drivers ed?

          • Chris

            Or, sports allow doors to be opened for individuals to obtain further education that would not be there without sports. Sports participation correlates with better academic achievement. So, cutting sports would potentially result in a negative academic effect. That’s research backed data, which trumps your “common sense.”

          • Kathy

            Let’s say you only had enough money to do one thing. You could take a semester of classes or play a semester of football, but not both. Which makes more sense long term? Same thing here at USD 489. We don’t have enough money to keep sports and education at their prior levels. So what decision was made? Almost 100% of the cuts were in education with firing of teachers, increasing class sizes, increasing enrollment fees, etc. You can talk all you want of sports playing a part in people’s lives, but when they don’t even get a quality education in the first place and you fund sports 100%, but let got a lot of teachers, something isn’t right or though through.

          • You sure?

            So your whole comment is centered on sports financing? You really think that is a valid claim? Is it possible that you might be somewhat out of line? Even if sports was eliminated, saving 365k or if every participant paid $1000 to fully subsidize the program, you still would be 1 million short for next year, making layoffs and fee increases reality. $800 for multiple kids to be educated in a safe, learning conducive environment doesn’t seem that bad to me. Sorry you’re so full of anger.

          • New BOE needed

            So we can’t cut a dime from the 1/2 a million that goes to sports for the simple reason it doesn’t exactly equal the 1.3 million we were in the red? Asking people who go out for sports to chip in some money is asking too much, but making me pay $800 in the span of 2 months for school is reasonable? Good logic there grasshopper.

          • passin_threw

            So all the time spent fundraising by student athletes and members of the booster club isn’t chipping in? Where is your logic in that?

          • New BOE needed

            So my share of ‘chipping’ in should be $800? That’s your logic? We do fundraising too for school so the kids can have items not normally able to be purchased and are also required to bring copy paper, etc on the first day of school. Sports aren’t required, if you want to go out for them, having a $25 fee isn’t asking too much. Do you think the taxpayers should subsidize sports?

          • passin_threw

            I don’t have a problem with a fee. And yes I think sports are valuable to education and should be part of it. I’ve sent 3 kids through 489 and none of them have participated in athletics. School is so much more than math and English, the social and leadership skills learned have an equal importance in my opinion. Sports can be a huge influence in both arenas. What’s so bad about providing a purpose for students that need that?

          • New BOE needed

            What’s so bad about asking them to pay a fee to play sports? But it’s completely ok to ask parents to pay fee upon fee to enroll their kids?

          • alexander

            Socialist.

          • passin_threw

            That’s a real zinger there Lexi

          • alexander

            A classic case of “funny because it’s true.”

          • Lefty54

            I hope you realize what a bargain you are getting for $300 for Drivers Ed. Instructors salaries, classroom materials, gas, insurance, wear and tear on the cars–$300 doesn’t begin to cover what it costs to teach your kid to drive.
            Most of the few remaining districts in Kansas that offer Drivers Ed charge more than that. And private driving schools charge WAY more than that.

          • New BOE needed

            Oooooh bargain. Drivers Ed: $300. Sports: $0 See the problem? Maybe a little more attention to educational needs vs throwing a football is what parents and taxpayers want.

          • Lefty54

            I’m not comparing Drivers Ed. to sports so I don’t know exactly what your point is. I am saying that $300 for Drivers Ed. is a bargain. Or you can save $300 and teach your kids to drive yourself. Ultimately, it is the parents responsibility to teach their kids to drive not the public school system.

  • Support the kids

    I will vote “yes.” I know that the BOE is silly. Greg S. is a Libertarian that does not want to spend a dime of his money for public education thus a poor advocate for public education. Several other members are clueless about the what actually takes place in the classroom not knowing that band was an actual class. And FAST was stupidly funded. Really this list could go on and on. But the kids should not suffer for the sins of the BOE. Let’s support the kids and vote “yes.”

  • Gonna Take Money

    Folks, If you want to have a strong school system that positively reflects upon your community it is going to take money. And that money, whether it is Garden City, Johnson County or Hays comes from local taxpayer support. Vote Yes.

    • Chris

      Yes.
      And the big differences between us and those other two places you mention are that we don’t have as many high value properties like JC, and don’t have the high numbers of minorities in schools like GC. More minorities = lots of govt. assistance.

      • mexicana

        i’m a minority. a hispanic. i work chris and i’m not on govt. assistance. but in your eyes if you see me on the streets i bet you think, because i’m hispanic, i’m on assistance.

        • Chief59

          I don’t believe Chris was meaning to be derogatory. Schools with higher numbers of minority students actually do get more assistance.

          • THEtruthABOUTchief59

            Chief59 knows! He has a BA in BS from FHSU!!! Real smart guy! Probably works for the county and eats but nuggets on the taxpayers’ dime.

          • Chris

            Thank you for your intelligence. It is appreciated.

        • Chris

          We are talking about schools, my intelligent amigo. Schools with a higher minority population receive more government funding from the state.

          • Reality

            True fact, Chris. This is why Dodge is getting a few million more from the Gannon court decision, and other districts with smaller minority enrollments (Hays, JoCo) are relying on LOB to make up reduced state funding.

          • Disgruntled

            The stupid thing is that other schools with high minority populations that need it like Wyandotte High School, Liberal High School, Garden City High School, Wichita West, South, Southeast, North, Heights, and East, Junction City, Topeka, and Emporia aren’t getting this new help like Dodge.

          • passin_threw

            Way to go Chris. Get the whole Hispanic community against you.

      • TSA

        Profile much????

        • Chris

          How is that profiling? I am thinking you don’t know the meaning to that word.

          JC=higher per capita income=more tax money from properties

          GC=higher minority population=more govt. money to schools.

          • DB

            GC is also pretty close to Hays in median housing values and income levels. The stupid thing that is going on there is that the district has a budget surplus and they’re still cutting teachers…

  • Chief59

    My wife and I both voted yes. We don’t have kids yet, but when we do, we want a quality education for them. It takes money for that.

    Now, should we as taxpayers be stuck footing the bill for mistakes made by the board and for the state of Kansas cutting funds? No, we shouldn’t, but I feel strongly that if we want a good education for our kids, then the schools need to be funded at appropriate levels, even if that means an extra $5-10 tacked onto my taxes. I think education is worth that much.

    • Guest

      I agree, and like most things, keeping things at an acceptable level is easier than trying to play “catch up” later. Plus, the kids don’t have a “pause” button while the lawmakers figure things out. They get one chance at 1st grade, or 4th grade, or senior year. We vote Yes to help the kids have a good experience. We will also pay attention and take time to go vote in April when 4 BOE seats are up for election. Hopefully bright, caring people with true concern for our public schools run for those seats.

    • pagerup

      that’s my point. the taxpayers do foot the bill for the board’s mistakes. and i’m getting tired of footing the bill for this board’s mistakes. that’s why i voted no. the education of our children will not suffer if this issue is defeated. the lob has been defeated before and the education didn’t suffer.

      • Chief59

        Did that defeat come while the district was facing a huge budget shortfall? Had the district just laid off nearly two dozen teachers? Had Brownback and his cronies already slashed school budgets to unacceptable levels? This is an entirely different set of circumstances.

        Fix mistakes of the board by voting for someone else during the elections, not by taking much needing money away from our childrens education.

        • BooHooIneedMYneihborsMONEY

          donate your own money and stop eyeing your neighbor’s, you fcking loser

      • Question?

        By mistakes, do you mean approving a budget that Roth and Cain recommended? Maybe some clarification would help?

        • Lisa

          Well, for one, they spent $60 k on Gus, left the sports budget almost 100% intact (including 7th grade sports they just added in), but said it was easiest and quickest to just fire 16 teachers to get the deficit balanced. Oh, and let’s increase enrollment while we’re at it too.

          • Question?

            So even if I agreed with you, which I don’t. The 60k for consulting is your hang up? 7th grade sports had to be added and was part of an arrangement in order for us to have 8th grade athletics. You don’t have to like it but that’s the way it is. The sports budget is the most underfunded and the most cut area over the past several years. It has seen a 50% reduction according to those who would know. Your reasoning truly demonstrates that you have no real knowledge of district operation or budgetary insight. You pick what you don’t like and attack it without true regard for the district. I dismiss your opinion.

          • Racer

            I disagree. We operated without 7th grade sports since the beginning. It wasn’t necessary to add it. We could have continued to play sports just fine, although they like to make you think otherwise. As far as cuts to sports or if one believes it’s underfunded, you have to keep in mind that it’s not required to have sports. We should take care of our kids’ education first. We didn’t lose any sports or coaches, but did lose a lot of teachers.

    • Chief59ISaFUCKINGfaggot

      Why don’t you just donate more of your money instead of forcing your neighbors to pay for what you think is “right”? Oh wait, it is Chief59 the sociopath who wants to use its powers for “good.” Kill yourself you fckin fggot.

  • Red Beard

    Two YES votes from our house! Stronger schools make for a much stronger community…now and for the future! Vote YES!!!

  • No Vote Here

    I voted No. I’m not voting this way because I don’t value the education of Hays kids or feel the teachers that would supposedly be brought back aren’t worth it (I do wonder though if that’d actually happen as they say it would). I’m voting no because, in my opinion, the BOE hasn’t proven they are frugal enough with funds they already receive and are looking to us taxpayers for a bailout. I don’t feel throwing more money at it is the answer. Deeper cuts at most all levels and areas is the tough, hard to swallow answer. That’s my 2 cents. Let the bombarding/name calling/finger shaking/insults/mud slinging/disrespectful disagreements with my post begin!

    • Guest

      You have a valid point. My concern with voting no, and the only reason the two in my household voted yes, is that our students do deserve the best education they can possibly get and I don’t believe the Board, as it stands today, will make the necessary cuts to come up with the $200,000 in time to salvage the 2014-2015 school year if the LOB vote fails. Teachers need time to prepare their classrooms and curriculum, and they are going to have a difficult time getting it done even if they know what to expect come July 1. We voted yes; we’ll pay the extra $0.19 or so per month on property taxes with faith that our students will receive the quality education this year that they so deserve. Then, come election time, we will vote very different for the School Board to ensure we are not in this same position next year.

      • Question

        You really feel that all the members of the schoolboard caused the shortfall?

  • johnson

    the kids are gonna suffer if this issue doesn’t pass? don’t think so. if it doesn’t pass it means the BOE will get a message from the taxpayers to buckle down and quit spending foolishly on things and positions. it can be done. but if it does pass the board will just have more money to waste. then they’ll come back for some more and say its for the kids! the kids will suffer again and again and….

  • Hays Taxpayer

    Two yes votes from our household. We have four kids in the school district and I hope they raise it the additional amount. I am happy to pay the increased fees during enrollment as well. I don’t see how you people that vote “no” can look yourselves in the mirror knowing that you are hurting the youth of this community. I think the board has been honest about the mess we are in and are doing what they can to work through it.

    • Mirror Mirror On The Wall….

      I voted no and have no problem looking in the mirror. I also don’t consider my no vote as hurting any youth of this community. They’ll still receive a good education. What I see my no vote doing is telling the BOE they need to figure it out without additional money coming in.

    • workhard

      NO one wants to hurt our youth education. Stop saying people do because they are voting “No”. Thats not what this is about. The “No” vote is because our worthless elected BOE has been LYING to the public for years! Major major mismanaging of funds (the root of our horrific local funding situation now) and they don’t support their teachers the way they should at all. Why should we as taxpayers REWARD THEM with more money so they can MIS-SPEND it again!?!?!?!? WHY!? I’m all for sports and extras etc and yes buildings need maintained blah blah blah. That’s how it is everywhere! Hays has THE highest fees in the state according to what Mr. Katt said. But we have some of the worst technology, oldest supplies and all the other waste of dollars policies they practice. Maybe if they would have sold some of their extra land they could have helped themselves out. There’s lots of ways they could help themselves out of this situation! We as tax payers DIDN’T put them in this situation. THEIR MISMANAGEMENT DID! THEY NEED TO GROW UP, ACT LIKE ADULTS AND FIX IT THEMSELVES.

  • Lefty54

    Obviously everyone can vote how they want. But I’m a little amused at the “I’m taxed enough” crowd. So this 19 cents per $100,000 is the one that put you over the edge? Why not picket the courthouse about your property taxes? Why not picket the statehouse about your sales tax? Why not picket Midwest Energy about your electric rates?
    This is where you decide the draw the line? Very strange.

  • Yes

    The state is sending our community far less money than in the past, and the effects are being felt. This is a direct result of the people elected in Topeka.
    I don’t agree with every decision the BOE has made, but locally we have to decide if we want to make up some of the reduced funding and keep our programs and class size where we think they should be.
    As for sports, no parent that has had a kid in sports will say it was free. Parents spend a lot to supplement sports, even paying for some of the coaches salaries. Do people really envision a 5A school without sports? Kids would leave our schools, attend nearby schools, and much of the savings we imagined would be cancelled with loss in per pupil funding.
    High school kids expect to participate in activities, sports, debate, quiz bowl, musical, plays, etc. these things are all part of giving our kids a well-rounded education. If they are not offered, not only would kids transfer, we would see professionals choose other communities that are willing to invest in the local children’s education.
    We voted yes, as we believe in supporting the local public schools.

    • Hays parent

      HaHaHa….parents paying out of pocket for the USD 489 coaches salary??? Name one example here where a parent gave a coach salary money. Generally, I’m in agreement with your statements, but that one was too far out in left field, forgive the pun. One can say over and over and over that sports aren’t free, but to put it bluntly, you can sign your kid up for track or football, etc and you do not have to write a check out to play. Hays Rec is the only place where you do have to pay a fee. I know this because my kids have played sports in 489 and also at Hays Rec.

      • Yes

        Not left field at all. Parents did donate to enable them to hire an assistant coach in soccer at least one year. I know there was another one, either golf or baseball. The money had to filter through the district, but yes, the parents donated and amount of money with the understanding the extra coach would be hired and paid.

      • Gonna Take Money

        I wrote a check to help support the addition of an asst. soccer coach. Glad I did – really benefited those girls.

        • Gonna Take Money

          Oh – and I’ve got a drawer full of Gold Cards – let me know if you want one. Never turned down one of those kids who come to the door yet :)

  • Beano

    Hey, 489, cut your sports programs! We’ll take your transfers!

    • Say what

      If people transfer, it will be due to our high enrollment fees, lack of teachers, number of kids per teacher in a classroom, and a BOE that doesn’t spend money wisely. If you send your child to middle or high school solely for their sports programs, then you have your priorities backwards.

      • Beano

        As a parent of two kids that went to college on sports scholarships, we would have transferred out of district to play at a school that values their athletes and programs. Fortunately, our little town backs our athletes and understands what an impact athletics has on not only the athletes but on the rest of the community. We’ll take your athletes and their families. All you non-sports advocates clearly don’t know how much these families contribute to your school and community. Not to mention the revenue that is generated in your community when opposing schools come to town. Seriously, do away with your sports programs. They will transfer, not due to backwards priorities, but due to the lack of opportunity to do something they love, lack of opportunity to have help paying for college, and a lack of respect from their own community.

        • Say what

          You can move if you want. I would rather my kids learn how to read, write, spell, math, science, etc over playing sports after school. When funding is at an all time low, you don’t cut education this deep and make sports out to be a necessity. Maybe your kids received sports scholarships. My kids are here to earn educational scholarships. And before you try to dog me, all my kids did go out for sports. They just realize the real opportunity is with education. 99% of the people from Hays will not be earning a lifetime living from pro sports.

          • Beano

            I love how everyone says that if you don’t go pro, then why bother. So, it’s not worth it for my son to earn extra money for college expenses by officiating? It’s not worth it for both of my kids to volunteer as baseball/softball coaches. I mean, there’s absloutely no value in either of those things since they aren’t earning millions? And, for the record, both of my kids were taught that if a school is deciding between two athletes, they will most always pick the better student; they student that was heavily involved in school and community. The majority of your student athletes will be the ones with the highest grades and involved in the most clubs. Given both of my kids were National Honor Society Members, I’d say they were about as well rounded as kids can get. Sports kept them engaged and involved. Without sports, I’d hate to imagine what they would have done with all that free time. And, don’t tell me “work”. They work all summer long on top of participating in rec sports and camps. Unless you are/were involved in sports, you can not even begin to comprehend what it means to be an student/athlete/employee.

          • Say what

            You don’t get it. I never said eliminate 100% of sports. I never said you had to make millions and be a pro sports person. I said 99% of the people will earn a living using their education to have a job. In this job market with more and more people having college degrees, you need that extra knowledge. Most employers will not care if you played football in middle school. They will care if you took a lot of math, science, foreign language, and higher ed courses in high school. I’m also saying instead of increasing class sizes and firing a lot of teachers, we could have trimmed down the sports budget more and implemented a pay to play fee.

          • Beano

            No, you don’t get it. You clearly have no idea how much these families are paying to play. You have no idea how hard your booster club works to help fund these sports teams, you have no idea how much time is spent by these athletes doing fundraisers to keep their programs running.
            I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but employers do in fact give a care about your extracurriculars. “How are you involved in your community? Well, I volunteer as a baseball/softball coach and officiate jr. high and high school athletics.” And, I can assure you 100% that the colleges your kids will attend care about their extracurriculars. It shows dedication and a work ethic that is often lacking in students that focus solely on their grades. It shows the ability to get along well with others and be a team player. I can assure you, if your college of choice is trying to decide between your straight A student and a straight A student that also plays sports- the athlete will be awarded the scholarship. Athletes are well aware of the hard work that is required to be successful. On and off the field. Remember, our athletes are taking the same math, science, foreign language, higher ed classes that your kids are AND practicing for a couple hours every evening.

          • Say what

            HaHaHa. I’ve never once been asked in a job interview if I went out for sports. I’ve also never once asked a person I’m interviewing if they did. It DOESN’T MATTER! You act like you are applying for Miss America where they ask you questions like that. Hey, doctor applicant, we need to know if you went out for track in middle school lol Yo…welder, did you make the high school basketball team? Hey, mister financial planner, we need to know if you were on the swim team in high school to decide if we should hire you lol Get real. With the lack of funding in education from the state level and now local budget issues and them eliminating quite a few teachers, get ready for the kids to have a lesser quality education. But kudos for being the bench-warmer for the football team. Go team go!

          • Beano

            Go back a reread. They often ask what you do with your spare time or how you are involved in your community. Never did I say they will ask if you played sports. Former athletes tend to stay involved in sports forever by dedicating their time and talents to young teams who love the game. This dedication is very helpful in landing a good job. And don’t underestimate the impact that sports play- even for the benchwarmers. They are crucial in winning big games and championships. They feel the successes and heartbreaks just like the players on the court/field do. I’d rather be a benchwarmer with a great story of a huge win than a bookworm with a great story about this book I read one time in high school.

          • Beano

            But, let’s go back to my original post- we’ll take your student athletes because you obviously don’t value them at all. Go ahead, stick it to athletics- we’ll be waiting with open arms.

          • Beano

            AND (hopefully this is my last post) Hays has good, quality teachers. They can handle it. They may not like it and it may not be ideal, but they will adjust and deliver. They teach because they are passionate and love what they do. I can assure you, they didn’t become teachers for the money.

          • Say what

            Where do you come up with your ideas? People have jobs, ultimately, for the money. No one works just for the fun of it. Teachers deserve more and I find education far and above more important than knowing how to dribble a basketball. And I’m not sticking it to the athletes. It is you putting words in my mouth. They can play sports if they want. I just feel they should have a pay to play fee. This will help with the budget shortfall we have. Why should we have to fire teachers to make it up the shortfall? I’d rather have a doctor, attorney, or lab tech that had good teachers and good courses than one that tells me he went out for football in middle school and coaches in his spare time.

          • Beano

            Because athletes never become doctors, attorney, or lab techs. Once again, these athletes are taking the same courses as everyone else. You might be downright offended to find out exactly how many of these people you come into contact with were former athletes. I admire and respect those that can work all day and yet still dedicate their time and talents to their community; those that give selflessly to our youth. Those are the people we want in our little community. Thank God you don’t live here.

          • Say what

            I do live here. And for some reason, you can’t grasp my point. If there was only enough money to fund 7th grade sports or fund 10 teachers and lower class sizes, I would choose the teachers and smaller class size. I would rather someone’s child received the education they need to be intelligent, go on to college, and become someone important in a nice paying salary job vs cutting education just so they can play around on the field. Sports alone are not going to get you anywhere after college unless you are the 1% that is in the top. The other 99% are going to rely heavily on a good educational background. You can have your sports, just make sure the educational part is solid and strong and not sacrificed in the process.

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