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13th Street turnlane striping underway (VIDEO)

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13th Street 3-lane striping is underway between Vine and Canterbury Streets

Pay close attention when you drive on 13th Street between Vine and Canterbury Streets this week.

It’s about to become two lanes with a center turn lane.  Striping started Tuesday:

The outside lanes will be soon marked as bicycle paths, the first for Hays.

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  • COUNTRY

    Lets just Mess up 27th street and Vine Street like this also. Since the City of Hays is spending all of this money on Bike lanes. The cyclist need to stay off the roads outside of town like the By-pass, Old 40, Tulon, and Commerce Prkwy. So the rest of us that have to work can get out and do what we have to and not have to worry about Killing someone or wreaking into on coming traffic. JMO

    • blind R

      I would agree. The majority of bicyclists do not stay in lanes anyway due to the crack between the concrete curb and the asphalt. Stupid money going stupid ways.

    • just some guy

      kiss my A$$, go to bed early quit drinking the night before and leave for work early so you dont have to drive 80 down these roads

      • Driver

        Yep, that’s the kind of attitude I think of while I’m stuck behind the Spandex crowd at 10 MPH.

        • just some guy

          lol spandex, thats some funny stuff right there, i cant wait till gas is so expensive that you people will have to ride a bike to get places, ill be passing you laughing my spandex encased body part off. why because you people are too dependent on your cars and trucks.
          REMEMBER DRIVING A CAR OR TRUCK IS A PRIVILEGE NOT A RIGHT

          • goober

            da komrade, da

          • Driver

            Hey, “just some guy” (if that’s your real name) I just got home after putting 478.8 miles on my work truck today. I’d probably be pretty tired if I had done that on a bicycle.

          • Driver

            Probably some chafing too.

          • just some guy

            thats good for you give yourself a pat on the back, but for getting around Hays a bicycle is perfect, what you people dont realize or understand, Hays is too small to own a car. oh and driver i put 30 miles a day on my bike 15, out of town and 15 back, and im probably old enough to be you dad, and i know you didnt put 478.8 miles on you truck driving in hays, because thats pretty impossible

      • country

        My business requires me to travel out of the city limits to work in the oilfield so you can have your precious cell phone, SPANDEX, Tires for your Bike, Oil for the chain, grease for your bearings, the biggest source of Tax dollars for Ellis Co.
        So no matter how high gas or fuel prices get I still have to get out and do my job. In the words of friend who passed away every time he heard someone whine about gas prices. “OH THANK YOU LORD OH THANK YOU KACHING”

        • just some guy

          “the boom will fall again” a quote from a great driller who passed away

      • your momma

        tard

    • country

      Forgot to include Canterbury in this list.

  • Hays

    I think this is a horrible idea.

  • gowest

    We all need to get the cruise controls ready for driving on 13th….set to 15 mph to keep up with the bikes, and accommodate the city administrations desire to slow down traffic. Looking forward to a nice leisurely drive on 13th going to work in the morning. Oh, and checking on bikes that do not have the required city bicycle license and calling HPD to report those ordinance infractions.

    • just some guy

      the bicycle licence has been in effect since the early 70’s when i moved to hays, people

    • Think then talk

      Here’s a link where that whole bicycle license / registration topic was already discussed. http://www.hayspost.com/2013/10/11/police-chief-discusses-bike-paths-bike-registration/

      • Thought and talked gone west

        Right…..HPD is not going to enforce the ordinance. Won’t keep me from slowing down to check every bike on 13th to make sure for myself they have their license.

      • hmmmm

        YES they report they are not going to inforce this license ordinance. But how upset is the city going to be when they have to answer hundreds of calls everyday reporting no license and registration on a bike. Maybe the city can just spend more money and have a dispatcher only for the bike paths.
        JMO

  • country

    I want to know who will be issuing passes to the High School Students that are late because they were on 13th

    • just some guy

      reading your posts i now know exactly who you are, and I know for certain when you hit a person on a bike I personally will press attempted manslaughter charges on you, under the citizen arrest laws Kansas has . so get ready to enjoy 3 hots and a cot for about 10 years, lousy human

      • other shoe

        You no nothing dumcuff, nothing, NOTHING I say you know NOTHING!! Guest, huh, not in my house you aren’t.
        And while I am on here, these bike lanes are for Schwaller’s bosom buddies. Not for the majority of Hays residents.

    • Rocket Science

      Looks like they will have to get up early to make it on time. Just like I have to leave in time for work. Duh!

    • Go back to your caves

      Again, they have not changed the intersection at 13th and Canterbury. How is it going to make it worse for Hays High students?

      • Citizen

        Again a lot of Hays High students use 13th street. So by reducing the street to one lane it is going to slow down traffic. I hope that is simple enough for you to understand.

  • Hays

    This is a mistake

  • your momma

    omg how dang dumb this city is so messed up dip s**ts

  • Ricki

    I like riding my bike, but I don’t think this is a solution for Hays. I find it to be more of an issue for the permanent residents here in Hays. Looks as though they are doing to please a small minority of perpetual bike riders. I myself, have a car that gets me places most of the time now, but when I took my bike places it was never an issue. I guess I just don’t understand where this idea came from?

  • Someone

    How stupid! Hays High students will not like this going to school in the mornings.

    • Go back to your caves

      They have not changed the intersection at 13th and Canterbury. How is it going to make it worse for Hays High students?

      • Citizen

        A lot of Hays High students use 13th street. So by reducing the street to one lane it is going to slow down traffic. I hope that is simple enough for you to understand.

        • Go back to your caves

          But they have to go through a one lane intersection. So I restate my original question. How is this going to make it worse?

          • HS 4

            I see you don’t have a lot of respect for the opinions of the majority of citizens in Hays. This tells me you are a arrogant City Commissioner! 27% of citizens voted in the last City Commission election and egotistical twisted people like you consider it a mandate because you received 1/3 of that vote!

        • just some guy

          when EVER has 13 th street been soooo packed with cars that you could not travel east or west at a normal rate of speed. it wasent always 4 lanes people, and im pretty sure (in fact positive) people complained when they made it 4 lanes.

  • Jeff

    Good thing this is just lines. They can be redone. Which is what I hope takes place once people, who don’t hear the news, feel the real effects of what the city has done and start to voice their displeasure. Also I saw on their map that the paths will be placed on residential streets. Will they be taking away parking on these streets for lanes?

    • My opinion

      I’m also worried that my front street parking will be taken away, let alone when I go to other people’s houses…I may have to park on a side street and walk just to visit a friend or relative. There has been enough damage and break ins to vehicles parked on the street and then to not allow you to park in front of your house anymore? Winter will be really nice….walk to the side street……start your car so it can defrost and walk back home…..by the time you get home car is defrosted so walk back to car…..leave for work. This all should have went to a vote. I never heard mention of it once and now they’ve started this process.

      • Rocket Science

        Looks like you should have went to city council meetings and ask these questions if you had concerns. Typical of the people who want to drive everywhere, too lazy to go to a city council meeting for sure too lazy to ride a bike.

        • Ricki

          Hey, some people are not lazy they may have a bad knee or leg. I only 28 and have a huge problem with my left tib/fib the only time I can ride my bike or walk anywhere is when the weather is really hot or cold. The shift in the temperature mess with my implant. I cannot risk not being able to not make it back home due to the pain. So I drive every where. So I am lazy? Wow your a jerk. Plus, there was no vote and the city council is full of people who do not think of others only themselves like you.

        • My opinion

          Ummmm….had I known this was even going to be discussed, I would have. I read the paper and Hays Post all the time and watch the news and didn’t ever hear about this idea. I’m not alone. Judging by the numerous comments on here and ones I’ve heard in person, the majority is NOT in favor of this and were completely blindsided by this being started. Maybe the city should have a city council website with updated postings of what will be discussed at each meeting so people can attend if they want. I doubt the public goes to each and every meeting just in case something comes up that concerns them.

          • Chris

            The majority on here were also against the increase in sales tax, but that was voted through in a landslide. So, I would take hays post comments with a grain of salt.

          • Citizen

            The majority of the people I spoke with did not want the sales tax. The only reason it got voted for was because the commissioners threatened to raise property tax.

          • Chris

            Quit regurgitating talking points. I was at the meeting. There was nothing threatening in the tone or the statement. If anyone felt ‘threatened’ they really need to invest in backbone strengthening exercises.

            Most people realized that the upgraded facilities were necessary for a growing(and aging) city. And most were smart enough to realize that with a sales tax increase, a large part of the money would come from out of town shoppers.

          • WeeTodd

            That is all fine and dandy until the out of town shoppers go to a different town to do their shopping.

          • dasboot

            Alright.. First, there has been 3 articles and 1 poll posted about this same topic of bike paths… I don’t understand how you could have missed any of these.. especially since the last one has 72 comments on it!
            1) http://www.hayspost.com/2013/09/12/city-commission-to-vote-on-on-street-bike-routes/
            2) http://www.hayspost.com/2013/09/13/bike-hays-moving-forward/
            3) http://www.hayspost.com/2013/09/20/poll-bike-paths-for-hays/
            4) http://www.hayspost.com/2013/09/23/big-changes-to-hays-street/

            Second, the city does have a website where all of the meeting minutes, and work packets are posted: http://www.haysusa.com/html/city_commission.html
            Pretty easy to find.. the link is right on the front page of the website.

  • DreamGirl

    This is the most dumbest thing I ever saw in my life there is going to be a traffic jam all the time. There are not even that many bikes on that road who ecer thought of such a dumb idea

    • Chris

      I giggled when I read “most dumbest,” and then chuckled when I read the run-on, nonsensical second sentence.

  • passin_threw

    i guess one pro is the bike path on 13th will never need any maintenance. this morning at 7:50 on 13th and vine, vehicles=97 and bikes=0

    • Chris

      Contrary to popular belief, bike riding is not enjoyable in 40 degree weather!

      Of course you aren’t going to see bike riders in high numbers during this time of year. *Facepalm*

      • passin_threw

        so at what temp will we be seeing these high numbers of bike riders?

        • just some guy

          you will see me, bwahahahahahaha

      • Spock

        ‘The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few’. Good quote. Logic sometimes defies the city it seems.

      • just some guy

        it is if you dress for it *faceslap*

        • Chris

          Take a chill pill..I’m on your side buddy boy. My comment was aimed at the individual that took the time to count all the cars at 8am but didn’t see any bikes. Of course bike traffic is lower in the colder months. I’m sure convertible tops are left up also.

          • just some guy

            sorry chris :)

          • passin_threw

            at 3:55 there were 109 cars, 2 motorcycles, 5 people walking in t-shirts and 0 bikes with a temp of 70 degrees. what is the optimal temp chris?

          • Chris

            You are always the man to go to for a good chuckle. Maybe those bike riders are at work at 3:55pm. Or maybe they’ve noticed you creepily keeping statistics of roadway users and have been avoiding your neighborhood.

          • passin_threw

            come on chris, give us some of you’re all knowing wisdom. when are we to expect all these bike riders that warrant such a change in 13th street??? you have all the facts now back it up

          • just some guy

            well now everybody knows where you live

          • passin_threw

            i knew i would blow my cover and everyone will know i live in the dumpster at casey’s now….dangit i sold myself out….

          • just some guy

            dumpster diving is illegal in hays buddy

    • Chief59

      Did you ever stop to think that maybe if there are bike lanes more people will ride bikes? Right now it is terrifying to ride a bike in Hays. Literally dangerous. People most likely avoid riding bikes on streets like 13th and 27th and Canterbuy, Hall, etc. to avoid being killed by the ignorant drivers in this town. Adding a safer way to ride bikes will most likely increase bike traffic.

      Also, it isn’t currently raining outside, guess I don’t need gutters on my house. That is the same logic you are applying here.

      • Chris

        I like your replies. Can I buy you a beer? lol

        • Chief59

          Anytime Chris. Care to join us for a Miller Lite passin_threw?

        • passin_threw

          chris i’d like to apologize, i had looked at the above comment and the dyslexia set in and i thought it was from you so i responded to that idiot chief’s comment. so pedal ur bike on over with a 30 pack in the basket and we’ll debate this

          • Chief59

            So I guess people who disagree with you are idiots?

          • passin_threw

            always amazed how some like to bundle and generalize statements.

          • Chief59

            I only disagreed with you, you called me an idiot. You don’t know me, I don’t know you, so other than the disagreeing part, you have no basis for your statement on me being an idiot. Can’t really see where you think I’m bundling or generalizing there.

          • passin_threw

            you made the assumption that i was calling everyone i don’t agree with an idiot where in fact is was only you i was calling an idiot. on the other hand i just think chris is confused and not an idiot. quit stereotyping people lady!

          • Chief59

            That is my point, you have no basis for judging whether someone is an idiot based on the limited information you have. I disagree and argue with you, so that makes me an idiot. You are also somehow making an assumption that I am a lady.

          • just some guy

            who needs a basket I have a trailer i can haul a keg BRAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa

      • passin_threw

        so people that ride bikes avoid the busy streets, yet you think it’s well spent money to create bike lanes on these streets that are being avoided? plus if the drivers in this town are so ignorant and the local leaders are pushing you to ride on the terrible streets of hays, america then it must be a conspiracy by henry to get rid of bike riders one bad wreck at a time? i like miller lite

        • Chief59

          People avoiding riding altogether, not just on busy streets. I also never addressed whether I thought it a good idea or bad. I just think it’s stupid that the sky starts falling everything something changes. I sometimes wonder how this town even got paved streets or electricity.

  • How’d this pass?

    So now when you are headed down 13th and want to turn right, you’ll have to look behind you in the bike lane to make sure you don’t cut off a cyclist. To me, it also looks like all the lanes are going to be pretty narrow. Hard to stay in your lane and pass a cyclist without knocking them over or swerving into the center turn lane. Geez….what a mess.

    • Go back to your caves

      Yeah! Who want to be bothered with looking around while they drive!

  • stonedigger

    Looks like some of the worst striping I have seen in a long time. The lines are not straight, the lines vary in width, and the lines are kind of splattered on the ends.

  • Guests

    Since the city mess up 13th st they need to monitor the bikes for 6 months and if it isn’t worth it they can always changes it back to 4 lanes. I hope the commissioners can figure this one out.

  • The sky is falling!

    Run for your lives! HIde the children before the evil bike lane gets them!

    Seriously, this is what you people have to complain about? First of all, you have no idea what traffic is. Traffic inconvenience is having to set through two or three changes of a light at an intersection before you get through. It is not having “look behind you to make sure you don’t cut off a cyclist”. There is not a street in Hays that has a traffic issue and if the majority of you would think before posting on this site you would realize that. The rest of you need to get out of Ellis County once in awhile.

    I for one want to ride my bike to work, and for pleasure. I have the ability to ride on the streets now. But given the inattentiveness of most drivers i feel a heck of a lot safer doing so in a designated bike lane.

  • j

    Just went down 13th at 5 being down to only one lane wa HORRIBLE. cars were backed up clear past adronics. And took 2 light cycles to get through.

  • safer than sorry

    I think 30 mph is way to fast to drive on 13th now, with all the bikes. We need to ask the city to reduce the speed limit to 20. Or, we can all do that on a voluntary basis ( or maybe 15) to make this brainchild safer and improve traffic flow!

    • Guest

      Lowering the speed limit is NOT going to improve the flow of traffic. In fact, it will do the exact opposite.

      • passin_threw

        captain obvious didn’t understand the sarcasm in the post

  • just some guy

    you know instead of putting bike lanes on 13th the ADA should make ALL the driveways wheelchair accessible, ie. remove all the driveway curb humps,bumps and pot holes so it would be smoother for bikes to drive down the sidewalks. AND NO people IM NOT SUGGESTING THAT WHEELCHAIR PEOPLE USE THE BIKE LANE. i wonder what would be cheaper construction or paint HUMMMM

  • just some guy

    HEY GUYS WE HAVE ANOTHER VENUE TO COMPLAIN ABOUT THE BIKE LANES. go to

    Dog park and Truck purchase on Commission Agenda

  • Bob’s your uncle

    Everybody needs to call and complain to Toby Dougherty at 628-7320. It is stupid that it now takes 5-10 minutes to get out of the Hays High parking lot, then 5-10 more to get through Canterbury light, then 5-10 more to get through 13th light, just to have a bike lane that, so far, has 0 bikes in it. I drive 13th street at least 8 times a day, 6 days a week for the last 10 years and have seen maybe 3 bikes total.

  • passin_threw

    well folks, it’s time for me to eat crow. i said the bike lane was useless and a waste. this morning i finally saw someone putting the lane to good use. i was parked at 13th and vine on a red waiting to go west and a little white car used it to turn right on a red. see i can admit when i’m wrong!

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