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Poll: Did Congress do the right thing? See how Kansas delegation Voted

Late Wednesday night, Congress approved a bill to reopen the government and avoid default. The President signed it into law shortly after. The law allows the government to borrow through Feb. 7 and fund the government through Jan. 15.Screen Shot 2013-10-17 at 6.37.54 AM

 

 

Senator Moran and Representatave Lynn Jenkins voted for the measure.

 

 

 

Senator Roberts, Representatives Tim Huelskamp, Mike Pompeo, and Kevin Yoder voted against the measure.Screen Shot 2013-10-17 at 6.39.23 AM

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  • Yahooserious

    Congress is making a huge mistake? Omg. Any of you voters familiar with economics at all? Go ahead and default on your mortgage or loans. See what happens. Tea party is nothing but a group of radicals who make promises they know they can’t keep and bring us to the edge of disaster-though the 17th was not a hard line date-and the gross part is they do it for their own benefit; not yours. It’s pretty clear when the most respected republican senators and reps. call them out on their ridiculousness.

    • observer

      Are you familiar with economics at all? I don’t know how your budget works but in mine I can’t spend more than I make. Just like Obama said in past speeches, to keep borrowing and spending is irresponsible-it’s un-patriotic. Obama criticized Bush for raising the debt to 9 trillion and now we are at 16 trillion + and skyrocketing. Yeah he is going to fundamentally transform America alright…… obama keeps making promises he won’t keep and you suckers keep buying his BS. Look at Detroit for example if you want to see what happens when liberals are in charge and un-restrained

      • AMERICAN

        You leave the government open and work on the budget, you don’t shut the government down and send us back to the dark ages just because the tea party is just plan nuts

        • AMERICAN

          Already at work we were having supplies problems because containers were sitting at the ports not getting inspected by the port and homeland security , there is more to government then your simpletons think. Go back in your cave, where your the king

          • AMERICAN

            “already at work we are having supply problems” I guess you missed that part . Why is it i we don’t agree with you tea bags we are all welfare gueens ?

          • Achoo son of a Sneeze

            If i can’t win the argument I’m going to make fun of your grammar that means I win.

        • Chief59

          Government shouldn’t control our lives. HOWEVER, things like food inspection are pretty essential. Obviously you’re someone who doesn’t care if 50 people die of food poisoning, as long as it isn’t you. How patriotic. Maybe you need to live in the woods off the grid with no government services at all. Oh wait, I forgot that you said you moved to another country. Maybe you should be worried about where you live then…

          • JBrown

            not worried at all. They don’t have the government using the FDA to protect their buddies businesses against others businesses, so usually the quality is better. They are actually competing in the market place. The FDA causes way more problems than they will ever solve. Half the time, they are creating their own problems to solve just like your lord and savior, nannie govie

      • JBrown

        It’s only 17T now. Nothing to worry about unless you are 5 or 6 years old an may have to pay it back without ever seeing it.

      • Yahooserious

        So what your saying is shut down your business(or shut down your job) because your in debt? Good thinking pal. Tell me how that works out.

        • No Telling

          Extreme debt, you’ll be shut down when your creditors ask for the money you owe. That’s what he’s saying and it’s economics 101.

          If 17 trillion is not extreme debt, what number is?

          Last figures I read said with a 16 trillion debt load broke down with the most recent census to $75,000.00 debt per citizen in America.

          To answer your last sentence of your post, Yahooserious, It’s called Bankruptcy.

          • JBrown

            Now, it is around $125,000/American that actually works.

          • Yahooserious

            Oh I agree. Get your ducks in order, but to do that your business needs to be operating. Closing the doors won’t change the fact that you owe. Y’all really need to reason this out.

          • No Telling

            Right, but this gov’t has been operating in the red for how many decades now? Eventually there comes a point when you look at your business and decide that you can no longer come close to lowering your deficit, at least you should quit bringing spending bills to your business’ books until you manage a way to improve your income and eradicate a good portion of the debt.

            With 16.7 trillion sitting on the heads of every american, I find it ludicrous to introduce a new spending bill that is going to exponentially increase the debt load and is only to compensate 15% of the American populace.

            In other words, since We the people are the gov’t, your paying for Obamacare if you fall into the 85% figure of people that already have health insurance.

            That is the tea party’s stance. Continually borrowing more money is not an answer. It is a ticking time bomb and the depression of the 30′s is going to look like childs play in this country when our beloved federal gov’t has to default on it’s bills in the future because the loan officers in this cat and mouse charade say no more.

          • Yahooserious

            I’m sorry but I missed the part in the article about our debt. I just read the part about government operating. I guess we are free to create our own discussion?

          • observer

            the debt is what this whole situation was all about, at the rate the dems are going the whole country will end up like Detroit…. but that seems to be what the president wants because he won’t negotiate

          • Yahooserious

            The debt is not what this was about. This was about showmanship; plain and simple.
            Maybe have GE pay some taxes or quit subsidising BIG oil, heck, big business in general. I bet that will lower the individual burden on people. If you think the tea party is going to do that… haha. Big business runs the tea party. Your being suckered by industrialists. Keep voting for the tea party and your radical anti-american ideals. It’s only a matter of time before the whole “right” party is elected out of every chamber. It’s on the way. I bet the Koch brothers are disappointed. They should be proud of their deception though, into fooling the everyday man/woman that follows them. Big business got us in this mess, I don’t foresee them getting us out of it.

          • observer2

            wonder how long till my moderated comment shows up if at all??

          • No Telling

            If you would have read all current events the last 17 days all of this information was on Yahoo and Google news for anyone to read. I don’t make up the facts. I merely present them.

            edited for grammar error*

          • JBrown

            “With 16.7 trillion sitting on the heads of every american” actually it is only sitting on the heads of those who work outside of government, since they are really the only productive members of society.

          • JBrown

            yes, the NSA needs to be operating so that people who disagree with you can be found and droned.

          • AMERICAN

            You work on bringing it down together , not laying everybody off, that just un American

        • observer

          So you’re saying keep borrowing more and more and NOT do ANYTHING to fix the situation…. yeah, that’s genius at work. That has been going on too long and the higher it climbs, the greater the crash

      • Chief59

        To keep borrowing and spending is irresponsible. To not pay the debt we have already accumulated is downright idiotic.

  • A_citizen_patriot

    I dont agree with what the repubs did but come on. If your going to take drastic measures try to make a change that you believe in, then stick to it. All you just did is roll over.

  • Chief59

    Misleading poll question. They did not vote to increase our debt, they voted to pay debt we have already accumulated.

    • A_citizen_patriot

      True, but when you have to borrow money to pay for your debt, there is something seriously wrong.

      • Chief59

        I won’t disagree there.

  • Chris

    Myths vs. Realties for the United States National
    Debt

    Myth #1: The National Debt will cause the United States to go
    bankrupt

    Reality: The U.S. is not like you or me. The U.S. government
    has the power to tax the largest economy in the world, the power to print
    money and has an infinite life expectancy. All of these factors mean the
    federal government can incur large amounts of debt.

    Myth #2: We have to pay back all of the trillions in debt

    Reality: The U.S. can simply “roll over” its debt year after
    year. That is, the Treasury Dept. issues new bonds to pay off the old ones.
    This is not a problem as long as investors are willing to hold U.S. Treasury
    bonds. U.S. Treasury bonds are very popular due to their liquidity (they
    are easily converted to cash), their low risk (they have zero default risk
    because they are backed by “the full faith and credit” of the U.S. government),
    and certain tax advantages.

    Myth #3: The interest payments on the national debt are a burden
    to future generations.

    Reality: U.S. citizens or even agencies of the U.S. government
    own most of the debt. Thus we are just paying interest to ourselves.

    Myth #4: The national debt is out of control.

    Reality: The true measure of the debt of a nation is the ratio
    of that debt to the size of the economy. The debt-to-GDP ratio for the
    U.S. is relatively modest compared (1) to other nations and (2) historically.

    There are, however two potential problems with our national debt:

    The interest payments on the debt redistribute income from taxpayers
    to bondholders. This redistribution is potentially regressive since
    wealthier households hold Treasury bonds. So all taxpayers pay debt interest
    but mostly wealthier taxpayers receive that interest. However, higher income
    households also bear a larger tax burden than low- and middle-income households:
    In 1999 the top 1% of household in terms of income paid over 30% of all
    income taxes.

    Large debts may produce the crowding out effect. Large debt
    levels by the U.S. government increase the demand for loanable funds, which
    increases interest rates and reduces the amount of private borrowing for
    investment spending. The size of this effect is a subject of debate among
    economists.

    • BobOil

      Chris, I don’t think many “wealthy households” hold Treasury bonds. Most advisors would steer any family away from near-zero interest Treasuries. According to treasuries.gov, about $7T of the $17T debt is held by the Fed itself and “intragovernmental holdings,” the next $6T by foreign governments (China, Japan and Caribbean nations the largest 3), about $2T by state/local governments and their pensions, and most of the rest by private pension and mutual funds. Very little is privately held by individuals, or so says the Fed.

      You’re correct about the income tax burden, though this has likely shifted a lot since most of the Bush tax cut provisions have expired, and everyone who pays income tax seems to be paying more.

      • Chris

        There was a time that they did have a nice interest rate, and I am assuming they will again in 7-10 years. I’m guessing quite a few wealthy household have treasury bonds without knowing it. (mutual funds, annuities, etc).

        Thanks for looking up those numbers..I didn’t have the chance to look up the updated $$ amounts.

    • A_citizen_patriot

      Oh wow I didnt realize they could print moeny. So they can just print enough to pay on the debt. Genius

      • Chris

        Dumb reply.

        • A_citizen_patriot

          Sorry, it must be dumb of me to not agree with your original post.

    • No Telling

      Chris, I have a bit of an issue with some of what you have written. To be plain honest, it sounds like a lot of created facts to soothe over the fact that debt is debt and if you are in it for 17 trillion, you are in pretty sad shape financially. Even Pat Roberts in other news articles was quoted saying that if we don’t get on top of this debt we are going to see a bankrupt U.S.

      Do you have handy, a link that you could post for me to read from a reputable source so I can read on it? Thanks.

      You do realize how ridiculous that statement above you wrote that states “backed by the full faith and credit of the U.S. gov’t” is? If the federal gov’t no longer has cash reserves to pay it’s bills are they going to put the louisiana purchase up for auction to the highest bidder? I realize that is a ridiculous suggestion but honestly, the idea that a gov’t that lacks cash reserves and needs to raise a debt ceiling at a certain date to keep from defaulting on it’s bills can be trusted in full faith is an oxymoron statement.

      Something comes to mind along the lines of “In God we trust, all others pay cash”.

      I really would like to read the article you did debating the myths and facts above. Thanks again.

  • alexander

    Good on Jerry!

    I’ve been very critical of his rhetoric lately, and it would have been real easy to vote “No” simply to have a talking point during next re-election.

    But Jerry listened to his constituents and did the right thing.

    You don’t need those extreme fundamentalist tea baggers support anyway, Jerry. You’ve made a career out of getting 95% of the vote, and there is no reason to enter the echo chamber. They can only hurt you.

    • AMERICAN

      This I will agree with

  • alexander

    “The tea party folks are just normal everyday citizens”

    Oh, I’ll concede that Sarah Palin is nothing more than a ‘normal everyday citizen’, but Ted Cruz? Rand Paul? Gimmie a break!

  • Rocket Science

    The correct answer is somewhere in the middle. Its not as far left or as far right as all of you crazy people think. You are all exactly what is wrong with Merica. You need to learn to work together and not just rattle off your opinion. Listen to each other and work off of each others ideas. Try to learn to make it a successful plan instead of always trying to shut each other down.

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