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Kansas state school board to review snack rules UPDATE

3:30 p.m. update   (AP) — The Kansas State Board of Education is reviewing proposed changes in federal rules for the quality of snacks available in public schools.

The board heard Tuesday from Cheryl Johnson, director of the state education department’s nutrition programs. Johnson said the U.S. Department of Agriculture announced the new standards this summer.

The USDA is proposing that all food sold in schools participating in the National School Lunch Program meets healthy snack requirements beginning next July. The rules include items sold in vending machines, but exempt sports concession sales and events such as food sales after school.

The USDA has said it’s trying to fight childhood obesity and related health problems. But its standards on school lunches have been criticized as being too strict and resulting in meals that kids won’t eat.

 

(AP) — The Kansas State Board of Education is taking a look at the possible effects of new federal rules aimed at ensuring public schools provide healthy snacks to schoolstudents.

The agenda for the board’s Tuesday meeting includes a presentation about standards announced this summer by the U.S. Department of Agriculture.

Starting in July 2014, the USDA will require that all food sold in schools participating in the National School Lunch Program meets healthy snack requirements. The rules include items sold in vending machines, but exempt sports concession sales and events such as bake sales.

The USDA has said it’s trying to fight childhood obesity and other, related health problems. But its standards on school lunches have been criticized as being too strict and resulting in meals that kids won’t eat.

 

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  • Parent of school kids

    It’s about time we got the government out of trying to tell us what to feed our kids in school. I pay full price anyway for my kids’ meals so would prefer they actually have quality food that they enjoy. The reason my kids have fake processed chicken nuggets for school lunch is so other kids can have a free or reduced lunch by following government food program rules. And I also prefer that if my kids want to pass on a fruit or vegetable that they be allowed to instead of it just ending up in the trash…..what a big waste…another government mandate. It only takes some common sense to make the food affordable, healthy, and tasty for the kids-NOT government involvement. We’ve already seen how well they are running the nation with trillions in debt and federal workers now sitting at home.

    • Chris

      If it was common sense to provide an affordable, healthy meal without government involvement, then we wouldn’t have obese children waddling all over the school. Nutritional literacy is anemic among many parents, and that’s why the government has to step in to try and control portion sizes and mandate fruits and vegetables.

      And your entitled attitude really shows through when you say ‘so other kids can have free or reduced lunches.’ What is your alternative? Punish the kids of the parents that don’t make enough to afford school lunches?

      • Parent of school kids

        Why should the government (us taxpayers) provide school lunches for free???? I work hard so my kids can eat. I don’t have an iphone or go out of town every weekend and go shopping or buy lottery tickets or drive an expense vehicle. I see that with so many people and then they are first in line for a government handout. Plus….the government has NO right being involved in telling my kids what they can and can’t eat. If those parents can’t afford a school lunch, they have the option of packing a cold lunch for their child. It’s no different than when the child is at home and has a meal. We need the school to make quality food and let the kids take the items they will eat and not throw away. The government needs to manage themselves and not our kids. And since when is a child going to be obese based on school lunches???? They only have like 12 minutes to eat, no seconds, and very small portions. It’s more than likely the food they consume at home if they are obese.

        • Rocket Science

          You also have an option to pack a school lunch. The government has no say in that. Problem solved!

          • Parent of school kids

            Not really. I, as a taxpayer, will still be paying for all those government free and reduced lunches. All the kids that eat the hot lunch also will still be forced to take items from all food groups even if they will just go straight into the trash can.

          • Get over yourself

            Not all the kids who get free lunches have parents that are walking around with an iPhone or go out of town every other weekend. You’re all about YOUR tax dollars paying for these kids. Well I don’t have kids, but MY tax dollars still go to the schools so YOUR kids can learn and have an education, so by your logic I should be making a scene saying all schools should go the way of public school and if you have kids you pay for it instead of the tax payers. You have a flawed sence of looking at things. Kids can’t help if their parents are broke, even if their parents work themselves to the bone trying to make ends meet so why make them suffer? Fool.

          • Parent of school kids

            Your the fool. So how about we also provide vehicles for the families that are too poor to afford one. Let’s also increase our taxes so people without a phone can have one. Let’s increase my insurance premium to cover those that hit me that don’t have insurance. Low income and need housing-no problem, we tax people for that too. I’m saying it’s time we put a limit on all this. If you play ball, you pay. If I want something, I pay for it. If I don’t have money for it, I go without. I personally know people on government income that are quite capable of working, but aren’t. For the people that really need some assistance, there are donations and organizations that provide in that area. I’m flat tired of seeing my tax return and realizing just how much was paid in.

          • Chief59

            “Your the fool”

            Ha, the irony in that statement is amazing.

          • JBrown

            The ironic part is that I corrected you on “your” and “you’re” just a couple days ago, and now you are talking. #liberalturd

          • Chief59

            Really? I went back and checked your replies to me and never saw it. If so, then touche.

          • JBrown

            Liberal, has to flag all my posts. It must be said being a poor, dumb, dependent liberal. It must be so frustrating when someone brings reality into your life.

          • Chief59

            What reality have you brought? You have only stated opinions and called names. Never once have you provided on single fact. Most likely because their aren’t any facts to back up your stance, so you have to resort to name calling. For your information, I work 45 hours a week at a good job, make a good living to provide for my family, pay taxes, and am very happy with the life I’ve created. Just because I don’t need government assistance, that doesn’t mean I don’t see the value of the programs and how worthwhile they are. Then again, I’m not the center of the universe like you are.

          • JBrown

            You haven’t had any facts. lmao liberal facts don’t exist. They think anything they say is a “fact” because they think it is a “great idea” that everyone else should follow and if they don’t they are “greedy and selfish.” hahaha you are just a tyrant. get over yourself.

          • alexander

            “I, as a taxpayer, will still be paying for all those government free and reduced lunches.”

            Wait, they make YOU pay for ALL of them?

            Why are you being singled out?

          • Works in the district

            Actually they’re not forced to take items from all food groups. They have to take one serving of either fruits or veggies.
            Your taxes go to a lot of things im sure you don’t use. I myself would probably be more upset about other things over helping out needy families.

          • Chief59

            ME, me, me mentality. I hope you or your kids never needs any type of help from the community. After all, you wouldn’t want someone else to have to help you out, right?

          • Parent of school kids

            You’re right. I wouldn’t want to have to ask for community help. If the situation ever turns to where I’d get to that point, believe me, I would do other things to first to cut corners like no TV service, cancel cell phone, stop eating at restaurants, no new clothes, no vacations, etc. My point is some take advantage of society by thinking they STILL need all those things while at the same time taking handouts from taxpayers. I’m not here to fund their lifestyle. I’ve got my own bills to pay.

          • JBrown

            hahaha and you have the “give me your money to spend on the programs I think are wonderful” mentality. If all of your “great ideas” are as wonderful as you think they are, wouldn’t people voluntarily give their money to them?

          • Chief59

            People are greedy and selfish. I’m guessing if you saw a homeless person you would not only walk the other direction, but think to yourself what a drain on society they are and never once think of why or how they got there.

            It’s always funny how your ilk think government regulations that are designed to actually help people are terrible, socialist ideas. You’d much rather have programs that help billion dollar companies. Capitalism, free market, etc., right?

          • JBrown

            So people are “greedy and selfish” if they don’t think their money should go to where you think it should go? Ya, I can tell that you are a really kind person. lmao #liberaltyranny #liberalknowsbest

          • hmmmm

            Not so true. They food they bring from home is supposed to meet the health standards at school as well. So you cannot send whatever you want for your kid to eat.
            JMO

          • Works in the district

            No one checks the food they bring from home. Kids can bring anything they want except items with nut products in them. Most schools are nut free zones now.

          • JBrown

            Actually, it dose have a say in it because of MooChell Oblunder. You should really catch up on reality sometime.

        • Chris

          Since free and reduced lunches are confidential, I really don’t know how you would know the people “first in line for government handouts.”

          You just can’t wrap your brain around the fact that there are kids that don’t have ANY food at home. Or they may not have parents that care enough to take the time to pack a lunch for them. That is what the free and reduced lunches are for.

          The government wouldn’t need to “manage kids” if parents were capable of doing it in the first place.

          You may be a great parent, but you have a very skewed sense of entitlement. Hopefully you don’t whine to your kids about the same stuff you post on here. Would really hate for them to develop prejudices against the poor.

          • Parent of school kids

            And just WHY is it my responsibility to raise my kids and also pay to raise other people’s kids? My sense of entitlement is I only buy what I can afford and am tired of paying taxes galore for everyone else. Look at our sky high property taxes, 8.4% local sales tax, and all these taxes and fees on our phone bill. How many thousands am I chipping in each year? Enough is enough.

          • alexander

            “and am tired of paying taxes galore for everyone else.”

            But you send your kid to PUBLIC school?

            You don’t so much mind OTHER people’s money being spent on YOUR child, do ya?

            “How many thousands am I chipping in each year?”

            I’m thinking once you factor in your return, none to one thousands. Probably closer to none thousands.

          • Chief59

            Property tax and sales tax contribute to your community. Unless you want dirt streets, no police force or fire department, no indoor plumbing or any of the multitude of things those taxes pay for, I’d suggest you quit complaining about them. Also, it’s hard to take you serious when you talk about how easy all these freeloading parents are with their iPhones, all the while complaining about taxes on YOUR phone bill.

          • Chief59

            Also, if you spent $15,000 per year on groceries and other items that you pay sales tax on, that amounts to $1260 in sales tax. Property tax depends on your property value obviously, but on a $150,000 home it comes out to $2070. That brings the total from sales tax and property tax to $3330.

            Now, based off your user name, I’d assume you have at least two kids. The child tax credit will give you back up to $1,000 per child. Basically, you don’t really pay as much in taxes as you make it out to be.

            As far as complaining about the cost of school lunches, maybe you should send your kid to school with a $3 happy meal everyday, because that’s about all you can get for $3 per meal. Not quite as healthy as a school lunch though.

          • JBrown

            Yes, because the money to over pay everyone at the schools comes from no where! Really no one pays it! yup yup yup #liberalturd

          • Chief59

            Overpay? You really think teachers are overpaid? Administrators, yes. Teachers, no way.

          • JBrown

            ya, they work 8 months a year, fail at their jobs, and take home $40,000… really “hard” work.

          • College Grad

            $40,000???? Really? Have you looked at a pay chart or are you just making stuff up? Maybe after working as a teacher for 10 to 15 years they might make that. Don’t forget to count in the 4 year college degree they had to earn to even get there. If you expect them to make $20,000 a year, then why would they even want to waste their time or go to college? They could just work at a discount store.

          • JBrown

            DING! Most of them should be working in discount stores!

          • Common Sense

            For one, a $3 happy meal is from a restaurant that is there to make a profit. School lunches should be a break even format. What does a whole fresh chicken cost these days? You can’t chop that up and feed a bunch of kids for a super low price???? Anybody can open a $20 bag of frozen fake chicken nuggets and feed 10 kids at a cost of $2 per child. What I’m after is cooks actually cooking a whole $2 chicken and feeding those same 10 kids for about .20 a child and let them eat actually real chicken. The same could be said for hamburger, etc. Prepacked frozen food is the least nutritious, most expensive, and least tasteful way to prepare food. By fresh hamburger and pat out those patties and they will like the food and the cost will be super low. On the child tax credit, you make the assumption that all is well if a person pays in $1,000 in taxes for junk spending as they are getting $1,000 back for a child. What kind of rationale is that? Cut those taxes down to maybe $200 for needed items so the parent can actually have a $800 reprieve on taxes they have to pay in.

          • Parent of school kids

            I don’t receive government handouts. I pay full price for my kids’ school meals. I don’t own an iphone, in fact, I don’t own a smart phone. I do have a landline and family cell phones and they all have multiple fees and surcharges on the bill, one of which is to provide phone service for those who can’t afford it. I’m not taking government handouts while still holding onto my iphone service, premium cable service, best high speed service, etc. I understand the concept of taxes so everyone can have a road to drive on, police protection, etc. What I don’t understand is why the federal government has to get involved in school food, let alone provide free meals at taxpayer expense. I also have personally seen people locally on SRS receive brand new high dollar items and over and above services on things that could have been done to much less extreme. I’m just wanting things toned down to where taxes are for ESSENTIAL services, not everything under the sun.

          • JBrown

            Because that is how it is in USSR. The country is your real family, and the government is your nanny. Get use to it, slave.

        • alexander

          “the government has NO right being involved in telling my kids what they
          can and can’t eat. If those parents can’t afford a school lunch, they
          have the option of packing a cold lunch for their child.”

          The government has every right if you send your kid to PUBLIC school.

          You have the option of packing your kid off to a private school who has lunch rules more to your liking.
          Nothing is being forced on you that you didn’t volunteer for.

          • Parent of school kids

            I disagree, the government does not have a right. Schools can opt out of the federal lunch program. It may be a public school, but the government still doesn’t need to be running a lunch program. How many things do you want the government to run? You know…..like they are such experts at running things in the first place (i.e. social security, veterans benefits, the current federal shutdown, obamacare, the postal system, our trillion dollar deficit, etc.)

          • school choice

            Yes to private schools and fair school funding…i.e. school vouchers to support school choice.

        • JBrown

          Because if they didn’t provide them for free, they would force everyone to buy them or pay a tax of at least $695

  • :/

    Snacks at our school are provided by the parents. So unless the govt is going to be sending them snacks every month, they need to stay out of it. I send snacks to school I know my student’s class will eat. Lunch times are crazy late this year so its nice for them to have a snack to tide them over until they eat lunch. Im all for being healthy but sometimes a kid just needs an oreo now and then.
    Most of the families that get free/reduced lunches are working families. Most of them also have more than one kid and that adds up. They don’t have to be spending their money on vacations and iphones to not be able to afford school meals. Sorry but almost $3 for a school lunch is crazy.

  • Educated

    Does anybody know why the lunch program was started? It was started because in the 20’s as men were being turned away from the armed services due to poor nutrition. When we are talking $3 for a lunch, where can you get a complete nutritional meal for that price? Yes, you could send your child a lunch, but if you started adding up the cost of a well-rounded meal, it would add up to more than $3. If we want to address the issue of obesity, we have to insist that every child gets PE EVERY DAY! We also have to go back to making sure we have Nutrition classes in every Middle School and High School. Finally, as community members, what nutrition education have you taken part in?

    • JBrown

      LMAO “complete nutritional meal” lulzzzz Have you seen a school lunch in the past 30 years?

    • Uncle Thomas

      Educated…?
      Do what you want at school. Have you asked a kid what they ate for supper or what they did on their weekend? Fast food and video games…! Then you have the teachers bribing them with candy!

  • JBrown

    I love it when liberals get all warm in goey inside from spending other people’s money. It would be crazy if one ever actually spent their own money.

    • AMERICAN

      hay stupid, “spending other people money” we are also spending ours, and on your kids also. How munch of my taxes go to paying for you kids to play in the sports or music programs? better to feed kids then pay for road trips for out of town games.

      • country

        I agree With “American” Why do the sport teams have to travel over an hour to play a game. Why not play area teams. I don’t care if they are Division 2,3, or 5 Or an 8 man team. Everyone is complaining there is no money in Schools. Stop running the Busses all over. As far as the Obesity get the kids out of the HOUSE. Most kids these days are on Computers or Video Gaming. The biggest down Fall to the Public Education System was when Bush put in the No Child Left Behind. If a student is not up with the class. Then the student needs held back Not the whole class. I sure as heck don’t understand why Ellis and Russell Co. Schools are lacking in Funding. These are the two Largest Oil Producing Counties in Kansas and I would Like to know where the Tax Dollars are going. When the Lottery was started the money from it was to go to Education, but that money has also disappeared. JMO

        • Chris

          Uh, what? Your suggestion is that 8-man teams or class 2A teams play big schools because it’s in their area? That makes absolutely no sense. Hays High vs Trego County? Obviously your sports experience is nil.

          Sports do a heck of a job at getting kids out of the house, while teaching them discipline, hard work, team work, and many other admirable attributes.

  • Chief59

    Aww, look….. I have my own personal stalker. Do you get tired of following me around and typing things like “liberalturd” on every discussion I’m participating in? I guess it must be hard to come up with other things to say when you can’t ever present any facts or sound arguments. Nanny state, liberal turd, freeloader, blah, blah, blah. Guess you must be waiting for Limbaugh’s next show on Monday for new material, huh?

  • Chief59

    Yep, when you posted the exact same thing repeatedly over multiple discussions. You are the definition of a troll.

  • AMERICAN

    Go get him cheif

  • AMERICAN

    omg, all jb’s got is Ted Cruz and rush talking points

  • AMERICAN

    My kids are you out of college already , so my taxes are paying for everybody’s else ,like yours in the special education class

  • JBrown

    all of that production was spent long ago. Your production is paying off your “good works” from 20 years ago right now. Get a clue, you f’in RTARD